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The above quote comes from Daniel C. Dennett on page 31 of his book, Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon There are many books dealing with this topic as Ed Babinski lists them for us. How does this relate to our debates?

My main thrust is that believers cannot be sure they are right. After all, they are making affirmative knowledge claims about God, the Bible, Jesus, the church, and so forth. I deny these claims. That's basically all I do. When someone claims they saw something, anything, I have a right to question whether the person saw this. Usually I don't question most claims if they are what we would expect in the natural world, since such claims told by a sincere honest person with no axe to grind are, so to speak, on the boards. But the number and range of the affirmative claims by Christians is vast, many of which must be right for their faith to be probably true.

Debates take place between us about many issues from the nature of Biblical slavery to the resurrection. Just looking at how confident Christians are in these debates is amazing to me. There are plenty of other reasonable conclusions someone can come to about such issues, but no, they act like answer men--they have the right answers that any reasonable person should see as the truth about them, even people in the past! They ignore for the most part the fact that many other professing Christians, the only kind we see, disagree with these conclusions.

Christianity, the kind I criticize here, claims that God will judge us based on what we believe. We must believe certain things to be saved. If we don't, then to hell we go. And so in the Bible are many warnings not to be led astray by false teachers. My point is that we are all easily led astray. We know this from psychological studies and brain science. Again, we know this. This science cannot be disputed. So I find it incomprehensible to think human beings will be judged by the content of what they believe. And I find it likewise ignorant for someone to claim s/he knows the truth; the whole truth. That's literally impossible. Doubt and skepticism about that which we claim to affirm is clearly required of beliefs which have no mutually agreed upon scientific test for them, which is the best method we have for sorting out that which we can know with any degree of assurance.

In any case, I challenge Christians to look into psychological studies and brain research to see such things as how the brain is woefully inadequate to be objective about the facts. We skew the evidence in favor of conclusions we want to be true all of the time. Read these two books:





Related links:

Who's Ignorant?

Some Thoughts on Science and Religion

Revealing the Reasoning of the Believer.

Christian Belief Through the Lens of Cognitive Science.

A Review of Valerie Tarico's Book.


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According to Tulsa World, a state lawmaker is urging Oklahomans to sign a morality proclamation “to acknowledge the need for a national awakening of righteousness.”

The Huffington Post posted the full resolution.

I'm lead to believe that the raving lunatic who is clearly behind this is this woman (pictured) Sally Kern. Who, reportedly said this"



Kern does what a lot of the more self-righteous theists do by throwing a lot of crazy ideas (that make most conspiracy theories look plausible by comparison), tossing them into a big pot and stirring it up until anyone equipped to respond is so baffled they don't know where to begin.

How did someone like Kern get into power? Who's voting for these types of people? What type of person is Kern?

Kern is a moral entrepreneur. She takes the opportunity to recast America's ever-evolving culture as fear. It's people like Kern standing in the doorway and blocking up the halls of social progress, but there's more to her "Good Reason" than just her convictions. The malicious ulterior motive is certainly her hunt for votes and her own success by the means that have made her successful throughout life — fear mongering and moral panic.

The harm done by Kern and others who profit off fear is abundant. Her approach is McCarthyesque and is bound to lead to more restrictions, more state and church integration, encourage more hate crimes, control thoughts and diminish minds.
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The evidence is mind-boggling. It simply does not work.

Therefore, "left-libertarianism" is empirically and scientifically wrong.

That is all.
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Atheist Biologist PZ Myers is an outspoken critic of Christianity. He believes that faith in God and science are contradictory. He debates theistic evolutionist Denis Alexander, Director of the Faraday Institute for Science and Religion. Is science is at odds with Christianity as PZ claims?

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